Anthony Rizzo « Thread Started on Jul 16, 2012, 1:22pm »
59 at bats with the Cubs: 359 avg, 4 hr's, 10 rbi. We traded him much too fast, should have stashed him at AAA and waited for a better offer then a injury prone pitcher.
59 at bats with the Cubs: 359 avg, 4 hr's, 10 rbi. We traded him much too fast, should have stashed him at AAA and waited for a better offer then a injury prone pitcher.
Imagine if a year took a century to unfold and you were born in the dead of winter; the coming of summer would seem a frightening change, with temperatures rising dramatically and seemingly without limit.
59 at bats with the Cubs: 359 avg, 4 hr's, 10 rbi. We traded him much too fast, should have stashed him at AAA and waited for a better offer then a injury prone pitcher.
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Re: Anthony Rizzo « Reply #4 on Jul 16, 2012, 4:42pm »
Time will tell if Rizzo was traded away too soon. Based on what I had read about him, I also thought he'd be San Diego's next slugging first baseman and once he was called up, I expected him to perform, at the very least, the same way Grandal is performing right now, instead of how he did before the trade to the Cubs
59 at bats with the Cubs: 359 avg, 4 hr's, 10 rbi. We traded him much too fast, should have stashed him at AAA and waited for a better offer then a injury prone pitcher.
That was the general consenus when the trade was made.
Imagine if a year took a century to unfold and you were born in the dead of winter; the coming of summer would seem a frightening change, with temperatures rising dramatically and seemingly without limit.
59 at bats with the Cubs: 359 avg, 4 hr's, 10 rbi. We traded him much too fast, should have stashed him at AAA and waited for a better offer then a injury prone pitcher.
Like last year, this is a pretty small sample size. I do tend to think he'll be better than pretty much any first baseman we've ever had, but it wouldn't have happened had he stayed here. Why? Padres luck.
As for those who say I'm "wrong all the time," I'd just say that they're being pretty selective in their memories.
Back to Rizzo, yes I agree we shouldn't have settled for so little for the guy.
Okay not all the time. But often times you are wrong. Often times you are correct too.
My statement was not a jab at you. Anyone who is an opinionated sports fan is often wrong.
59 at bats with the Cubs: 359 avg, 4 hr's, 10 rbi. We traded him much too fast, should have stashed him at AAA and waited for a better offer then a injury prone pitcher.
Like last year, this is a pretty small sample size. I do tend to think he'll be better than pretty much any first baseman we've ever had, but it wouldn't have happened had he stayed here. Why? Padres luck.
As for those who say I'm "wrong all the time," I'd just say that they're being pretty selective in their memories.
Back to Rizzo, yes I agree we shouldn't have settled for so little for the guy.
Wasn't it you who wrote: "Who's the "promising rookie"? If you're thinking Rizzo, think again. He can't hit a breaking ball."
If Rizzo is not a "promising rookie" and we got Cashner who is a "promising rookie", why would you think we didn't get enough?
Imagine if a year took a century to unfold and you were born in the dead of winter; the coming of summer would seem a frightening change, with temperatures rising dramatically and seemingly without limit.
Wasn't it you who wrote: "Who's the "promising rookie"? If you're thinking Rizzo, think again. He can't hit a breaking ball."
If Rizzo is not a "promising rookie" and we got Cashner who is a "promising rookie", why would you think we didn't get enough?
I might have been wrong on Rizzo. He's been to the plate like a hundred times, though, so I wouldn't yet call him Lou Gehrig.
We didn't get enough because Cashner looks to ME like the next Kerry Wood in reverse.
You are right. Rizzo results have been from a few plate appearances. We don't know if he will be a good hitter. Sample size is something that is easily forgotten.
Cashner came back from an arm issue last year. He pitched at the end of last year with no arm problem. He pitched this year with no arm problem, so far. I think bringing up Kerry Wood isn't really based on much.
Imagine if a year took a century to unfold and you were born in the dead of winter; the coming of summer would seem a frightening change, with temperatures rising dramatically and seemingly without limit.
Imagine if a year took a century to unfold and you were born in the dead of winter; the coming of summer would seem a frightening change, with temperatures rising dramatically and seemingly without limit.
Imagine if a year took a century to unfold and you were born in the dead of winter; the coming of summer would seem a frightening change, with temperatures rising dramatically and seemingly without limit.
Re: Anthony Rizzo « Reply #11 on Jul 25, 2012, 5:03pm »
I couldnt care less about Amarista vs. Rizzo. We didnt trade Rizzo for Amarista. We traded Frieri for Amarista.
Rizzo has all the makings of being a really good ballplayer. He's still so young, and has been raking after owning minor league pitching. It sickens me that we traded him essentially straight up for Cashner (I dont count that shitty OF we got in the deal).
Cashner's upside is a 2 or 3 starter. Rizzo might be a perennial All Star if he hits his celing.
Yes, he's terrible. His numbers are about equal with his scouting report.
We got Cashner for Rizzo. The outfielder was a throw-in. No one expected much from him. Cashner on the other hand has looked very good and could be a very valuable player for the Padres next year. The outfielder is only 20 so it is a little early to write his epitaph
Imagine if a year took a century to unfold and you were born in the dead of winter; the coming of summer would seem a frightening change, with temperatures rising dramatically and seemingly without limit.
I couldnt care less about Amarista vs. Rizzo. We didnt trade Rizzo for Amarista. We traded Frieri for Amarista.
Rizzo has all the makings of being a really good ballplayer. He's still so young, and has been raking after owning minor league pitching. It sickens me that we traded him essentially straight up for Cashner (I dont count that shitty OF we got in the deal).
Cashner's upside is a 2 or 3 starter. Rizzo might be a perennial All Star if he hits his celing.
"Might be" are the operative words in your posting.
I was comparing him to Amarista to show how silly it is to make sweeping statements about 21 games of data.
Since this thread started Rizzo is hitting: .265 .304 .353 .657. And that is playing his home games at Wrigley Field - not Petco Park.
Rizzo could become what you think but the jury is still out.
Imagine if a year took a century to unfold and you were born in the dead of winter; the coming of summer would seem a frightening change, with temperatures rising dramatically and seemingly without limit.
Yes, he's terrible. His numbers are about equal with his scouting report.
We got Cashner for Rizzo. The outfielder was a throw-in. No one expected much from him. Cashner on the other hand has looked very good and could be a very valuable player for the Padres next year. The outfielder is only 20 so it is a little early to write his epitaph
That's the problem. Instead of packaging a promising young stud who was highly thought of, for multiple players......a deal between the good ole boys network was arranged and Rizzo was gift wrapped to Chicago for one starting pitcher and a warm body.
Cashner needs to pitch like an ace (not a 2 or a 3) and stay healthy, or this deal is a huge setback for the franchise.
Basically, the Padres dropped to their knees and said "Ahhhh" to Chicago on this one.
Bill, when this Rizzo guy was with the Padres and batting about a buck, you were comparing him to Mike Schmidt.
What gives?
My position hasn't changed. My contention was and is that a small sample size is insufficient to determine a players future. Others saw AZ in 100 ABs with San Diego and determined he would never be anything. Others see AZ in 100 ABs with Chicago and think we traded an all-star.
Imagine if a year took a century to unfold and you were born in the dead of winter; the coming of summer would seem a frightening change, with temperatures rising dramatically and seemingly without limit.
I couldnt care less about Amarista vs. Rizzo. We didnt trade Rizzo for Amarista. We traded Frieri for Amarista.
Rizzo has all the makings of being a really good ballplayer. He's still so young, and has been raking after owning minor league pitching. It sickens me that we traded him essentially straight up for Cashner (I dont count that shitty OF we got in the deal).
Cashner's upside is a 2 or 3 starter. Rizzo might be a perennial All Star if he hits his celing.
I still can't figure out this trade. It's baffling even for the Padres.
Imagine if a year took a century to unfold and you were born in the dead of winter; the coming of summer would seem a frightening change, with temperatures rising dramatically and seemingly without limit.
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