Well, actually I don't because unlike Romney, teachers, firefighters and cops care about people. I mean really, how stupid is this clown?
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Bob, Romney's main thrust, and indeed the main thrust of the conservative movement in general, is that government has gotten too big and costs too much. Somehow we must cut back on the size and cost of government or else go broke. Now, how long it will take to make progress along those lines is open for debate.
My own belief is that we cannot do this all at once. We will have to slow the growth of government gradually . No doubt by using attrition (i.e., retirements, etc.) a lot can be accomplished. Reworking retirement systems to be more economically affordable will also be necessary. Lots of people are going to feel the pain, but there is no alternative save going over an economic cliff.
Barack Obama has no real plan to slow the growth of government. He has no plan to boost the economy except pour more money into government jobs, and that will only make things worse.
So, Bob, keep telling yourself that there is no real problem. Keep telling yourself that we can continue to increase the size of government and the cost of government with no ill effects. Keep doing your Alfred E. Neuman impression and I'm sure all will be well.
Funding local firefighters and police officers isn't a federal responsibility.
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+1. Right on. Obummer is running out of moves so he goes to the ol trusty "cops and firefighters" line. You do realize while he calls for more cops and firefighters and is reducing WAR FIGHTERS!
Funding local firefighters and police officers isn't a federal responsibility.
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+1. Right on. Obummer is running out of moves so he goes to the ol trusty "cops and firefighters" line. You do realize while he calls for more cops and firefighters and is reducing WAR FIGHTERS!
Reducing war fighters will balance the budget faster than reducing cops and firefighters.
How selfish soever man may be supposed, there are evidently some principles in his nature which interest him in the fortune of others, and render their happiness necessary to him, though he derives nothing from it except the pleasure of seeing it. Adam Smith
+1. Right on. Obummer is running out of moves so he goes to the ol trusty "cops and firefighters" line. You do realize while he calls for more cops and firefighters and is reducing WAR FIGHTERS!
Reducing war fighters will balance the budget faster than reducing cops and firefighters.
That is self-evident since the federal government doesn't fund local firefighters or police to any real degree. You wouldn't save anything. Military/defense is a federal function. We could also stop funding Medicare and social security, it's the same point.
Funding local firefighters and police officers isn't a federal responsibility.
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+1. Right on. Obummer is running out of moves so he goes to the ol trusty "cops and firefighters" line. You do realize while he calls for more cops and firefighters and is reducing WAR FIGHTERS!
Huh? When did the fed gov pay for local civil services?
You're like those cons on the radio here in AZ who want to return education back to the people of AZ away from Obama, who don't realize it's local people in their own party running K-12 education into the ground in AZ.
Reducing war fighters will balance the budget faster than reducing cops and firefighters.
That is self-evident since the federal government doesn't fund local firefighters or police to any real degree. You wouldn't save anything. Military/defense is a federal function. We could also stop funding Medicare and social security, it's the same point.
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Fine, Stu. Reducing the military will balance the budget faster than anything. Take half of the savings for job training of rifed military. Perhaps police, firefighters, teachers. An enhanced GI Bill. Just stop throwing our people and our money down military ratholes.
How selfish soever man may be supposed, there are evidently some principles in his nature which interest him in the fortune of others, and render their happiness necessary to him, though he derives nothing from it except the pleasure of seeing it. Adam Smith
That is self-evident since the federal government doesn't fund local firefighters or police to any real degree. You wouldn't save anything. Military/defense is a federal function. We could also stop funding Medicare and social security, it's the same point.
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Fine, Stu. Reducing the military will balance the budget faster than anything. Take half of the savings for job training of rifed military. Perhaps police, firefighters, teachers. An enhanced GI Bill. Just stop throwing our people and our money down military ratholes.
I get what you're saying. However, you're mixing budgets up. One cannot simply pull from one and add to another.
That is self-evident since the federal government doesn't fund local firefighters or police to any real degree. You wouldn't save anything. Military/defense is a federal function. We could also stop funding Medicare and social security, it's the same point.
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Fine, Stu. Reducing the military will balance the budget faster than anything. Take half of the savings for job training of rifed military. Perhaps police, firefighters, teachers. An enhanced GI Bill. Just stop throwing our people and our money down military ratholes.
We already have that.
Our optempo for our military is high, reduce that and the remainder would never be home.
Fine, Stu. Reducing the military will balance the budget faster than anything. Take half of the savings for job training of rifed military. Perhaps police, firefighters, teachers. An enhanced GI Bill. Just stop throwing our people and our money down military ratholes.
We already have that.
Our optempo for our military is high, reduce that and the remainder would never be home.
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Don't you mean perstempo?
Leaving that aside, I was not aware that the military had a job training program for folks leaving the military. Can you fill me in?
How selfish soever man may be supposed, there are evidently some principles in his nature which interest him in the fortune of others, and render their happiness necessary to him, though he derives nothing from it except the pleasure of seeing it. Adam Smith
Our optempo for our military is high, reduce that and the remainder would never be home.
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Don't you mean perstempo?
Leaving that aside, I was not aware that the military had a job training program for folks leaving the military. Can you fill me in?
Funny you mention that. I was reading SI's Peter King this afternoon, and....
THE NFL SHOULD LOOK AT THE ARMED FORCES. "I couldn't even finish your latest Monday Morning Quarterback article before writing. The conversation you wrote about between you and the commissioner really prompted me to write. It seems the NFL is looking for a way to better transition its players into regular life. I would suggest the NFL look to the U.S. military as an example of how to transition players out of the league.
I'm a Navy vet and I was sent to a week-long school to prepare me for my transition from the Navy to civilian life. Some of the services available to service members as they leave include mental health care through the military for 90 days past their service date and then from the V.A.
We received training in resume-writing, job-hunting, house-hunting and in our veteran's benefits. I was required to have a resume by the end of the class. I had been given information about unemployment, medical and dental expenses, health insurance (something I had zero knowledge about as a service member), budgeting a household and where to go for counseling (I have PTSD from the war). I now work as a civilian for the U.S. Army. I thought you might find that interesting. Thank you for what you do.'' -- From Tim Shannon, of Laurel, Md.
Tim, thank you. That's a great email. I know how much the NFL uses the military for information-sharing, and I believe they must know about the post-career planning that the armed forces do. But certainly this is good advice. Good luck in your second career.
Our optempo for our military is high, reduce that and the remainder would never be home.
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Don't you mean perstempo?
Leaving that aside, I was not aware that the military had a job training program for folks leaving the military. Can you fill me in?
Optempo.
The GI bill is very generous and permits a wide range of education offerings plus a monthly stipend equal to BAH. Fire and police academies already exist and vets have hiring preferences.
Note that you are being argumentative and deflecting off the subject.
Leaving that aside, I was not aware that the military had a job training program for folks leaving the military. Can you fill me in?
Optempo.
The GI bill is very generous and permits a wide range of education offerings plus a monthly stipend equal to BAH. Fire and police academies already exist and vets have hiring preferences.
Note that you are being argumentative and deflecting off the subject.
How selfish soever man may be supposed, there are evidently some principles in his nature which interest him in the fortune of others, and render their happiness necessary to him, though he derives nothing from it except the pleasure of seeing it. Adam Smith
The GI bill is very generous and permits a wide range of education offerings plus a monthly stipend equal to BAH. Fire and police academies already exist and vets have hiring preferences.
Note that you are being argumentative and deflecting off the subject.
Stu, doesn't need me to fight his battles. But, as a retired Army guy I'll state that those other "tempo" terms are newer in time, and used by the "suits" in D.C.
No one, and I mean no one, in the "line" or "field" would use any term other than "optempo" for deployments and pace. It's all semantics. Don't get caught up in that. If someone in the "line" gave the response you did above of "Learn your own lingo" you would've been classified as a "cheese dick" in my time and peered out as someone more focused on politics then mission accomplishment and taking care of the soldier.
There is a difference between "The book" and "The real world" in the military.
Our optempo for our military is high, reduce that and the remainder would never be home.
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Don't you mean perstempo?
Leaving that aside, I was not aware that the military had a job training program for folks leaving the military. Can you fill me in?
Most military folks don't carry weapons and shoot people. Most hold jobs for which they are trained, that have civilian equivalents; electronics techs, aircraft maintenance, accounting, mechanics etc. That combined with the work experience they garner while serving is sufficient training to get folks transitioned to civilian life.
Those that are combat arms are often the least prepared but come out with benefits that allow them to go to school and get training once they ETS. My nephew for instance, a Stryker Machine gunner and Afghanistan vet is currently enrolled at UNLV in their Hospitality program using the GI bill.
Additionally, many of the large defense manufacturers have "Hire a Vet" ( as well as Hire a Disabled Vet) programs that bring these guys on and provide training.
Stu, doesn't need me to fight his battles. But, as a retired Army guy I'll state that those other "tempo" terms are newer in time, and used by the "suits" in D.C.
No one, and I mean no one, in the "line" or "field" would use any term other than "optempo" for deployments and pace. It's all semantics. Don't get caught up in that. If someone in the "line" gave the response you did above of "Learn your own lingo" you would've been classified as a "cheese dick" in my time and peered out as someone more focused on politics then mission accomplishment and taking care of the soldier.
There is a difference between "The book" and "The real world" in the military.
LOL
Don't know when you retired, but the article was written in 1999.
How selfish soever man may be supposed, there are evidently some principles in his nature which interest him in the fortune of others, and render their happiness necessary to him, though he derives nothing from it except the pleasure of seeing it. Adam Smith
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