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Re: Basketball Season Sold Out! « Reply #20 on Aug 28, 2012, 11:36pm »
Very few of those $99 dollar seats were sold for $99. A lot of folks donated an extra, non-refundable $100-$300 to make sure they had the chance to get those $99 seats.
With the way the department played the extra donations and points system, customers raised the prices on themselves.
Not to mention that this is the one of the weakest home OOC schedules we've had since Viejas has opened.
Re: Basketball Season Sold Out! « Reply #21 on Aug 28, 2012, 11:37pm »
Anybody who complains that we sold out every game should make an appointment to see a therapist! As long as recruits see the fan support is so rabid, tickets get sold out 4 months before the season starts, that's all that matters.
Over the years I have heard San Diego State isn't supported by the fans.....we are halfway home, just wait until football reaches the same level as hoops. Times will be grand on the mesa, especially for all us old-timers that have waited most of our lives for something like this to happen. I think it'll be here sooner that I think.
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Re: Basketball Season Sold Out! « Reply #22 on Aug 28, 2012, 11:47pm »
If we lose to Syrcause, UCLA, and don't make the final of the Diamondhead, do any of you think we would still sell out the home games versus Bakersfield, Boise St, and Air Force?
Raising prices to the point where you need 1.5-2k walkup to sell out every game is gambling that the team will still start the season 12-1 or better.
What happens if the team doesn't play well? You lose out on a ton of unsold tickets and the customers you just stuck it to with a huge increase aren't going to be happy fans.
San Diego is still a front running town and if the team happens to hit the skids at any point in the season, attendance will take a hit.
Selling out the season before it even starts is a total win for the program, the department, and the University.
If we lose to Syrcause, UCLA, and don't make the final of the Diamondhead, do any of you think we would still sell out the home games versus Bakersfield, Boise St, and Air Force?
Raising prices to the point where you need 1.5-2k walkup to sell out every game is gambling that the team will still start the season 12-1 or better.
What happens if the team doesn't play well? You lose out on a ton of unsold tickets and the customers you just stuck it to with a huge increase aren't going to be happy fans.
San Diego is still a front running town and if the team happens to hit the skids at any point in the season, attendance will take a hit.
Selling out the season before it even starts is a total win for the program, the department, and the University.
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Re: Basketball Season Sold Out! « Reply #24 on Aug 28, 2012, 11:59pm »
Just to add to my growing litany.
ATTN: SDSU Ticketing Office, Athletic Department, and Associated Students.
Congratulations on selling out the MBB season two months in advance!!! You all now have 60+ days to devote your undivided attention to not completely screw up the distribution of student tickets. With the season being sold out so early, those student tickets will fetch a premium on the open market. This is the third season of very high demand for student tickets. GET YOUR $#!+ TOGETHER.
Remember, the most loyal and devoted students who may get screwed if you can't handle something that every other big time basketball program can do are going to be future season ticket holders, supporters, donors, etc.
If this isn't done correctly, you could end up turning off ANOTHER generation of alums and fans.
ATTN: SDSU Ticketing Office, Athletic Department, and Associated Students.
Congratulations on selling out the MBB season two months in advance!!! You all now have 60+ days to devote your undivided attention to not completely screw up the distribution of student tickets. With the season being sold out so early, those student tickets will fetch a premium on the open market. This is the third season of very high demand for student tickets. GET YOUR $#!+ TOGETHER.
Remember, the most loyal and devoted students who may get screwed if you can't handle something that every other big time basketball program can do are going to be future season ticket holders, supporters, donors, etc.
If this isn't done correctly, you could end up turning off ANOTHER generation of alums and fans.
A very long time ago, my best buddy gave me his UCLA student tix. He replaced his photo for mine on the student ID, but told me I had to stand in line for the tickets. BTW, my 1st season doing this was when Big Bill was on the freshman team. The ticket dept, checked our IDs and gave us a wrist deal with a number in it. We had to stay in Pauley all night, and when they finally sold the tickets, the packet was tickets for all the home games. We also had to show our IDs for entrance at all the games. I do not know how many sold their tickets. I would guess that ticket brokers were not able to sell the student tickets. It seems like a pretty good way to give out tickets to the dedicated students. And, it would still provide a way for students to give their tickets to other students, as all they needed was their own IDs. At that time Pauley held 12505, and it was sold out for just about every game, for the three years I got to use my Bud's ID.
It seems like a pretty good way to give out tickets to the dedicated students. And, it would still provide a way for students to give their tickets to other students, as all they needed was their own IDs.
Great idea.
I know there might be some fire code or other regulations regarding the narrow walkway leading to the East Portal but....why not make the east portal gate, which I have never seen in use for entry and exit in 10 years, the "Students Only" entrance. Have something like 4 turnstyles all hooked up to the RedID system. In order to get entry, you need a student ticket and a valid RedID. That's it. I realize that there is an increased cost of getting the computer system running bulletproof, hiring extra security guards, and planning a backup should the computers go down but there would be no wristbands, no matching barcodes, no mandatory attendance to some other worthless event.
Just one more level of security would eliminate virtually all of the student ticket reselling to the general public. I know that doesn't eliminate students making money off other students but just implementing a RedID check at a students only entry is, IMO, achievable in 60+ days time.
I just think that it's absurd that we have 3 main gates to the arena and we have only used 2 of them the past two seasons where we had 10+ home sellouts. It's dumb.
Very few of those $99 dollar seats were sold for $99. A lot of folks donated an extra, non-refundable $100-$300 to make sure they had the chance to get those $99 seats.
With the way the department played the extra donations and points system, customers raised the prices on themselves.
Not to mention that this is the one of the weakest home OOC schedules we've had since Viejas has opened.
Yep, you can't criticize the pricing model without taking into account the donation element. I for one donated twice as much as my actual tickets cost. The played it pretty coy with the point system and I'm looking forward to getting the total donation numbers. I'm betting it was at least twice as much as last year.
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Re: Basketball Season Sold Out! « Reply #28 on Aug 29, 2012, 12:57am »
If tickets are re-sold using the SDSU Ticket Exchange, then the program/athletic department makes a cut of that as well.
That helps with the upside revenue equation since it is free money (ie. making money off a ticket you already sold).
The marketing and hype surrounding a sold out season months early is huge for the program. Something that can drive additional interest to recruits and media outlets.
If the team backs it up this season, then they can raise prices next year and few will complain.
Very few of those $99 dollar seats were sold for $99. A lot of folks donated an extra, non-refundable $100-$300 to make sure they had the chance to get those $99 seats.
With the way the department played the extra donations and points system, customers raised the prices on themselves.
Not to mention that this is the one of the weakest home OOC schedules we've had since Viejas has opened.
Yep, you can't criticize the pricing model without taking into account the donation element. I for one donated twice as much as my actual tickets cost. The played it pretty coy with the point system and I'm looking forward to getting the total donation numbers. I'm betting it was at least twice as much as last year.
I'm late to the conversaton but this is what came to mind as well. Supply and demand, as saucematix, the underacheiving econ grad, seems to not realize, almost always finds a way to figure itself out.
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Re: Basketball Season Sold Out! « Reply #30 on Aug 29, 2012, 3:22am »
Wish I could remember how much the tickets were for Sam Houston State and UCSB - that was '07 and '08 respectively. I sat pretty far up for those games. Bought those tickets on game day too.
Actually, those days aren't as far off as many people would think.
There are seemingly always some tickets available outside. Even during the 10/11 season with the exception of the big games like BYU and UNLV and everything else that was in conference, you could get in. You didn't have to buy from scalpers either.
Season ticket holders have a ticket or two sometimes in which someone has a reason they can't go.
Last season, I gave/sold tickets to friends because I was going to be on a long work trip. Then, the trip got cut short and I went to the sold out game with my daughter anyway and was actually given a ticket right before tip off and bought another. Viejas was not full.
I don't think that will be the case this season even early on, but I think tickets can be had if you want to go.
Re: Basketball Season Sold Out! « Reply #33 on Aug 29, 2012, 11:16am »
The days of going to an Aztec MB game for less than it would cost you to go to a movie are at an end. I couldn't be happier. If you're not, stay home, there are plenty of late comers to take your place.
Re: Basketball Season Sold Out! « Reply #34 on Aug 29, 2012, 11:16am »
Still no ones seems to get the point. Small increase in prices...you will get same donations, you will still sell out the season, WELL in advance, and you have an extra $500,000 to $1,000,000 ( in ticket revenue alone) to spend on getting new recruits, facilities, etc to get better players to continue our excellence.
I will refer back to this specific post when half the board is outraged at empty seats and excessive scalping.
Re: Basketball Season Sold Out! « Reply #35 on Aug 29, 2012, 11:23am »
Toughest ticket in town, in a town with little competition. No NBA team- not even a D League team, or NHL team-the 8th reincarnation of the Gulls hasn't happen yet. It just proves SD is a frontrunner town!!
Re: Basketball Season Sold Out! « Reply #36 on Aug 29, 2012, 11:48am »
All these business major wannabes who want to talk about supply and demand should also be aware of another couple of business elements.
1. Goodwill 2. Market Appeal
Goodwill: Raising prices to market levels would be seen as a money grab by some and create long-term problems with how the program is seen. You can not raise prices with a limited supply product beyond a percentage/time frame without losing goodwill.
Market Appeal: An early "Sell Out", makes the product more appealing. It is human nature to value something that can not be achieved. It is not only the fans but also recruits. Do you think those we are recruiting are not well aware that the Aztecs have sold out the season?When the Aztecs have a relative low in basketball, which is inevitable, do we want fans thinking they can take a season off and tickets will still be there when they get back? Creating a shortage by selling below market, insures continued sales during a less attractive time. This is basic in subscription-type product sales. We need continuity.
Imagine if a year took a century to unfold and you were born in the dead of winter; the coming of summer would seem a frightening change, with temperatures rising dramatically and seemingly without limit.
Re: Basketball Season Sold Out! « Reply #37 on Aug 29, 2012, 11:55am »
Plus donations are a tax write off aren't they?? So wouldn't it be better for the university/fans to have lower ticket prices and have a "donation" aspect?
Plus donations are a tax write off aren't they?? So wouldn't it be better for the university/fans to have lower ticket prices and have a "donation" aspect?
Exactly right. I liked the statement above by someone that using the point system allowed fans to self increase the price of tickets.
Imagine if a year took a century to unfold and you were born in the dead of winter; the coming of summer would seem a frightening change, with temperatures rising dramatically and seemingly without limit.
Still no ones seems to get the point. Small increase in prices...you will get same donations, you will still sell out the season, WELL in advance, and you have an extra $500,000 to $1,000,000 ( in ticket revenue alone) to spend on getting new recruits, facilities, etc to get better players to continue our excellence.
Average seat price did go up from last season. The department did make more money and the Aztec Club got 100s of new members.
There is a fine line between making more money while rewarding loyal fans, and straight up gouging them to make a quick buck in the short term.
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I will refer back to this specific post when half the board is outraged at empty seats and excessive scalping.
And the other half would have already been outraged if the department would have tried to excessively raise prices for the 2012-13 log of a home schedule that we are squeezing out.
SDSU didn't even come close to selling out the $99 season tickets last year so it's not like they were all unscrupulously purchased by ticket brokers.
Which has nothing to do with season tickets. Most of those scalped and/or unsold tickets were purchased on the first day of single game sales by brokers, who hired boiler rooms to slam the ticketmaster site. Single game tickets for the USC and UNLV game were being purchased by the row, minute by minute. I was refreshing my browser to see almost entire sections being purchased. That's why those games were sold out by lunchtime of the first day of single game sales.
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