And don't forget LBSU was the only school that voted no on adding SDSU, which appeared to a blatant admission that they thought we would steal their Basketball Tournament Bid, which may or may not be true.
Assuming they both are no votes, and knowing that SDSU, UCSB, and Poly are already Yes Votes, it means that Boise needs Yes votes from all of the other 6 schools in the conference.
If that doesn't happen, time to go to the WAC, and take Cal Poly and UCSB with us if we can.
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Re: Hawaii and LBSU « Reply #2 on Jun 15, 2012, 12:08pm »
I want NO part of the WAC. I'm fine with Boise not in the Big West and I don't think that is a reason to SDSU to 'leave' the Big West. It is a perfect fit for our non-basketball teams. I also don't think not getting in to the Big West will impact Boise going to Big East in football, which is what we mostly care about.
In the end, I think they do get in anyway but just because Boise St. may have to go to the WAC, that doesn't mean we do.
Re: Hawaii and LBSU « Reply #3 on Jun 15, 2012, 12:19pm »
Long beach tried to organize a slave revolt in football 30+ years ago where they attempted to strong arm the ncaa into lowering schollys to 55 and even sharing of tv money - that act created the breaking point where the centralized tv deal was challenged in court and the first steps taken towards what we have today with the bcs and what is going to come after the bcs. Long Beach is and always has been a low rent small time program that would rather bring others down to them, then them rise up to meet them. F'em
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Re: Hawaii and LBSU « Reply #4 on Jun 15, 2012, 12:42pm »
If BSU is denied entry into the Big West, we are in a real pickle. As has been posted many times (probably mostly by me), SDSU does NOT want to give up the lower travel expenses associated with Big West membership.
On the other hand, if the BW says no to Boise, what will the Broncos do with their non-FB sports programs? What the Broncos might be forced to do could harm us.
Re: Hawaii and LBSU « Reply #5 on Jun 15, 2012, 1:05pm »
I think it's time again for one of the select six posters to claim big east/west is a done deal that is superb in every way for SDSU athletics and we should stop talking about any other possiblities.
Re: Hawaii and LBSU « Reply #6 on Jun 15, 2012, 1:10pm »
LBSU is one of the few schools in the Big West that want to elevate their sporting profile and not the other way around. The current administration is throwing more money at basketball then they have in the past because they realize without football it is all about basketball. Not many schools in the BW are making that type of commitment and that includes Cal Poly one of this board's favorites.
I think it's time again for one of the select six posters to claim big east/west is a done deal that is superb in every way for SDSU athletics and we should stop talking about any other possiblities.
Seems to calm you down and help with the anxiety.
I think it's time again for one of the four secret BYU fans to tell us how our alternatives in staying in a pathetic MWC (which looks liike the wac minus bsu of the past) is where we should stay and let our athletic program die a miserable irrelevant death.
Re: Hawaii and LBSU « Reply #8 on Jun 15, 2012, 1:47pm »
Long Beach State has the best overall Program in the Big West. LBSU has won the Commissioners Cup the last two years in a row.
You're competition in the BW will be LBSU, UCSB, and Hawaii. Irvine is improving.
I don't know how LBSU will vote about adding Boise. My guess is Long Beach will vote yes as long as Boise PAYS to get into the conference. Someone has to pay to fly the Water Poly teams to Boise.
Boise has a name in Football and nothing else. LBSU played Boise in the Pyramid this year and kicked their ass. LBSU had a 20 point lead before Monson emptied the bench. Everyone played including the walk ons and Long Beach still beat them by 10 points. LB beat them up in Boise the year before.
In case you haven't noticed the state of California is broke. The schools are going to take another massive budget cut in November. The BW Schools don't need the added expense of flying teams up to Boise.
If Boise pays a entry/exit fee and pays all travel cost they will be welcomed. But don't ask us to bend over for Boise without getting something in return.
On a brighter note, my daughter is a student at SDSU and loves the school. So far I have been very impressed with SDSU.
I think it's time again for one of the select six posters to claim big east/west is a done deal that is superb in every way for SDSU athletics and we should stop talking about any other possiblities.
Seems to calm you down and help with the anxiety.
I think it's time again for one of the four secret BYU fans to tell us how our alternatives in staying in a pathetic MWC (which looks liike the wac minus bsu of the past) is where we should stay and let our athletic program die a miserable irrelevant death.
them's fightin words. if you would like to send me a pm, i will gladly elaborate in graphic detail about the filthy things i would do to jimmer's girlfriend because he can't. all the caffeine in the world couldn't stop me from ridiculing mormonism as much as humanly possible. i legitimately think mitt romney should be disqualified from being president because he has ties to lds and by extension byu. continue on.
Re: Hawaii and LBSU « Reply #11 on Jun 15, 2012, 1:56pm »
If LB had their way in the BW, they would kick out every school more than 90 miles from them, and invite Community Colleges to fill out the league. The funny thing about them being, they actually have football teams....
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Re: Hawaii and LBSU « Reply #12 on Jun 15, 2012, 1:58pm »
what exactly does Boise bring again? other than money, headaches, some Taco Bell arena, and a basketball team who shared last place in the Mountain West with Air Force? Couldn't they at least finish ahead of TCU?? How do they go from 2nd in the WAC one year to the cellar of a conference the next?
But for sure, we are still going to love their "potential." I will give them credit for this though: at least they scheduled fewer 300+ RPI teams last year (two) than in 2010-2011 (five)
So what's in it for us? Travel to an exotic location?? Is it their "nationally respected" golf or tennis teams?? do they provide the conference a shot in the arm for swimming or volleyball?? Maybe softball provides the Big West a recognizable name? Do they improve track at all? What about their all-worldly women's soccer team? It will be difficult for wrestling and gymnastics to do the trick as the conference does not care form nor does it sponsor, those two majorly important Donkey sports.
Doesn't help their cause either when they disrespect the Big West profile by not having water polo, men's soccer, or baseball. How can you not have any of these sports and still be a full member in our conference? Unless Boise actually steps it up in basketball then they only bring a whole lotta nothing.
simply put - They don't have a brand name outside football... yet.
Publicity to a conference which desperately needs it. And yeah, I know Boise's hoops teams is a nonentity. So what? Its football program is the underdog darling of The World Wide Leader and that in itself will bring publicity to the Big West.
I equate it to Tony Gwynn coaching SDSU's baseball team. Frankly, Tony has been a terrible coach between the chalk. However, his very name brings free pub to SDSU. Boise basketball will do the same for your conference.
Edit: Gotta add this. Sorry but golf, swimming, volleyball and tennis don't matter. They bring zero publicity to a school and, therefore, zero dollars in donations from alumni. You don't want your school to continue to be broke? Win in men's basketball! In a conference people actually know something about!
If LB had their way in the BW, they would kick out every school more than 90 miles from them, and invite Community Colleges to fill out the league. The funny thing about them being, they actually have football teams....
Publicity to a conference which desperately needs it. And yeah, I know Boise's hoops teams is a nonentity. So what? Its football program is the underdog darling of The World Wide Leader and that in itself will bring publicity to the Big West.
I equate it to Tony Gwynn coaching SDSU's baseball team. Frankly, Tony has been a terrible coach between the chalk. However, his very name brings free pub to SDSU. Boise basketball will do the same for your conference.
Edit: Gotta add this. Sorry but golf, swimming, volleyball and tennis don't matter. They bring zero publicity to a school and, therefore, zero dollars in donations from alumni. You don't want your school to continue to be broke? Win in men's basketball! In a conference people actually know something about!
Re: Hawaii and LBSU « Reply #18 on Jun 15, 2012, 2:17pm »
It is about the money, thats the point which you seem to be missing.
And the Boise basketball team I saw last year would not beat LBSU, UCSB, or Fullerton. And I doubt if they would beat Irvine, Northridge, or UOP on the road. And next year Hawaii is added.
BW Fans want SDSU and Hawaii. Hawaii is paying travel expenses. If Boise opens their wallet enough BW fans will want them too.
Surprised to see you agree. Then again, brilliant minds think alike.
To be serious for a moment, I applaud the fact you've shown yourself to have a strong enough ego to not feel compelled to strike out against anyone who might disagree with what you post. The MWC board in particular could use a lot more people like that.
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