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« Thread Started on Jul 13, 2012, 6:58pm »

Fisher said he is leaning toward “banking” the scholarship that became available when senior-to-be Alec Williams transferred to Humboldt State, using it on a prep player from the class of 2013 or a transfer next season.

Said Fisher: “Right now, there is nothing on the horizon that would say we’re going to sign somebody.”


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« Reply #1 on Jul 13, 2012, 8:16pm »

Why bank it? Give the scholie to Narbeh. He's a senior anyway.

Plus, for GPA purposes I understand Narbeh is a good student, and wouldn't he count toward a graduating player?
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« Reply #2 on Jul 13, 2012, 10:27pm »

Does anyone know if Penn State has any quality B-Ball players that we could snag when they get the death penalty. (Entire Athletic Dept)
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« Reply #3 on Jul 13, 2012, 10:31pm »


Jul 13, 2012, 10:27pm, bearfoot wrote:
Does anyone know if Penn State has any quality B-Ball players that we could snag when they get the death penalty. (Entire Athletic Dept)


i dont think we want penn state's leftovers...
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« Reply #4 on Jul 13, 2012, 11:17pm »

Narbeh getting the schollie first semester makes a lot of sense but I'm betting 2nd semester that schollie will be going to our new stud transfer... 8-) :)
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« Reply #5 on Jul 14, 2012, 12:53am »


Jul 13, 2012, 11:17pm, coolethan wrote:
Narbeh getting the schollie first semester makes a lot of sense but I'm betting 2nd semester that schollie will be going to our new stud transfer... 8-) :)


what part of "nothing on the horizon" do you not understand?
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Jul 14, 2012, 12:53am, Monty's Zuma Mesa wrote:

Jul 13, 2012, 11:17pm, coolethan wrote:
Narbeh getting the schollie first semester makes a lot of sense but I'm betting 2nd semester that schollie will be going to our new stud transfer... 8-) :)


what part of "nothing on the horizon" do you not understand?

Players don't generally transfer during the summer. They transfer in nov & dec when they realize they're not getting the playing opportunities they're looking for. Midyear transfers are the norm not an exception with this program just look at half the roster. 8-) :)
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« Reply #7 on Jul 14, 2012, 9:01am »

Our days of getting 'stud transfers' are disappearing if they are transferring for not getting playing time. If it is for other reasons it will most definitely continue.
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No way in hell Narbeh deserves a schollie
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Jul 14, 2012, 9:51am, mnolt08 wrote:
No way in hell Narbeh deserves a schollie


Why not?
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« Reply #10 on Jul 14, 2012, 10:26am »


Jul 14, 2012, 9:55am, tecpride00 wrote:

Jul 14, 2012, 9:51am, mnolt08 wrote:
No way in hell Narbeh deserves a schollie


Why not?


For the same reason(s) we didn't give it to Alec Williams. Narbeh is a great story, but he will get virtually no playing time this year with the depth we have coming in.

And if there is a mid-year impact transfer that the coaching staff wants to recruit, we need to have that option open.
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« Reply #11 on Jul 14, 2012, 10:49am »


Jul 14, 2012, 10:26am, therealeman wrote:

Jul 14, 2012, 9:55am, tecpride00 wrote:


Why not?


For the same reason(s) we didn't give it to Alec Williams. Narbeh is a great story, but he will get virtually no playing time this year with the depth we have coming in.

And if there is a mid-year impact transfer that the coaching staff wants to recruit, we need to have that option open.


Did not give Alec what? A scholarship? What are you talking about?
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« Reply #12 on Jul 14, 2012, 11:07am »

I can see the argument for keeping the scholie in case a mid-year transfer pops up. In fact, it's quite possible Fish already knows something may be on the horizon. (Was James Johnson immediately on scholie when he started class in January 2012? If so, it means Fish "banked" a scholie last year too.)

Yet as fabtec points out above, top quality mid-year transfers are not common since they are usually unsatisfied with their playing time/role and simply can't wait to get out. Insofar as our program is at a new level, playing time will be tough especially given the type of players we are recruiting with the open scholies for 2013.

Whatever. It's a great problem to have.
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« Reply #13 on Jul 14, 2012, 12:19pm »


Jul 14, 2012, 10:49am, aztec70 wrote:

Jul 14, 2012, 10:26am, therealeman wrote:


For the same reason(s) we didn't give it to Alec Williams. Narbeh is a great story, but he will get virtually no playing time this year with the depth we have coming in.

And if there is a mid-year impact transfer that the coaching staff wants to recruit, we need to have that option open.


Did not give Alec what? A scholarship? What are you talking about?


Of course I'm talking about a scholarship. What's the point of this thread again?
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« Reply #14 on Jul 14, 2012, 1:32pm »


Jul 14, 2012, 10:49am, aztec70 wrote:

Jul 14, 2012, 10:26am, therealeman wrote:


For the same reason(s) we didn't give it to Alec Williams. Narbeh is a great story, but he will get virtually no playing time this year with the depth we have coming in.

And if there is a mid-year impact transfer that the coaching staff wants to recruit, we need to have that option open.


Did not give Alec what? A scholarship? What are you talking about?


These schollies are renewable annually.
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« Reply #15 on Jul 14, 2012, 2:00pm »

What is the situation for January? Rivals and Scout show that we do not have an offer out to him. Did we ever? Is he still in our plans now that he is supposedly going to a Prep school this year......I would hope so.
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Jul 14, 2012, 12:19pm, therealeman wrote:

Jul 14, 2012, 10:49am, aztec70 wrote:


Did not give Alec what? A scholarship? What are you talking about?


Of course I'm talking about a scholarship. What's the point of this thread again?


Alec was on scholarship.
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Jul 14, 2012, 1:32pm, aztecwin wrote:

Jul 14, 2012, 10:49am, aztec70 wrote:


Did not give Alec what? A scholarship? What are you talking about?


These schollies are renewable annually.


When did Fisher say he was revoking Alec's scholarship? If he did, I must have missed it.
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Jul 14, 2012, 12:19pm, therealeman wrote:

Jul 14, 2012, 10:49am, aztec70 wrote:


Did not give Alec what? A scholarship? What are you talking about?


Of course I'm talking about a scholarship. What's the point of this thread again?


Okay, assuming we are not in the market for any transfers...Why would we NOT give a senior a scholarship we have available? You have no reason to believe there is anyone on the horizon. Or at least you shouldn't. Per Steve Fisher himself...
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Jul 14, 2012, 10:29pm, aztectruth wrote:

Jul 14, 2012, 12:19pm, therealeman wrote:


Of course I'm talking about a scholarship. What's the point of this thread again?


Okay, assuming we are not in the market for any transfers...Why would we NOT give a senior a scholarship we have available? You have no reason to believe there is anyone on the horizon. Or at least you shouldn't. Per Steve Fisher himself...


Fisher also said he's planning on "banking" it, which means if it's not going to a mid-year transfer, it'll roll over to the 2013/14 class.

You're not going to like this next part, but my point is not that we shouldn't give it to a graduating senior, it's that we shouldn't give it to Narbeh. He's not a scholarship caliber player (at least not for our upcoming roster), and if he were, Fisher would have answered that question with "we're giving the scholarship to Narbeh for his senior year." Obviously, no mention of that has come out of the mouth of any coach (at least not publicly) and it won't. The speculation has always been Pelle, that won't happen, but the idea is to give the scholarship to a player that has an above average chance of coming off the bench and making a solid contribution during game day.

With the way we're recruiting now, and the momentum our basketball program has moving forward, SDSU is done with bench-riders on scholarship. Not that there's been many, but you get the idea. Our depth combined with our returning experience for next season is unlike anything we've seen in the past, and frankly I don't see Narbeh receiving any real minutes next season. If you're on the bench form now on, it's because you're redshirting or waiting to be eligible because you transfered. That's it. If you don't somehow match the caliber of the team, or fit in the rotation, then you're not receiving a scholarship.

And sure, we are out of the transfer market for now, but come mid-year next season, who knows what may become available. If an high caliber player becomes available, (like James Johnson did last year) we should give ourselves an opportunity to consider him, especially when you think about what we are going to lose next year. Giving the scholarship to Narbeh would prevent all that from happening, and the idea of giving him a scholarship for half a year is even more ridiculous.



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