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CBS Sports.com - BCS How to divide bigger pie
« Thread Started on Apr 16, 2012, 10:29pm »

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« Reply #1 on Apr 17, 2012, 2:26pm »

I have a proposal to solve this BCS playoff mess that makes so much sense it will never come to fruition.

Continue to keep the bowl system with all its traditional conference affiliations and after the end of the bowl season have a 4 team playoff. A NCAA committee will pick the four teams to participate in the playoff (just like we have now for the basketball tournament only its 4 teams not 68 ).

The playoff games would be played one week after the end of the bowl season at predetermined locations so tickets and hotel rooms can be presold.

If all bowl games are required to be played no later than January 1st then the football season would only be extended one week.

The bowl games become more interesting because the teams are playing for a shot at the playoffs.

Just an idea but way better then what we have now.

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« Reply #2 on Apr 17, 2012, 2:38pm »

If this was all about money, a 16-team (8-4-2-1) format with a total of 15 games would generate the most tv money by far. My guess is each game might be worth $50M with the last three games worth closer to $100M each. That would be close to $1.0B as in billion. So if the discussion is about a four-team format (three games) at $350M why not go to 15 games and go for another $650M? Why leave that kind of money on the table?

The wisest decision might be to simply wait and open it up to bidding for a variety of formats to the various networks and see what they offer.

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Re: CBS Sports.com - BCS How to divide bigger pie
« Reply #3 on Apr 17, 2012, 3:34pm »

No matter what is discussed and what they end up doing some how the little guys are gonna get screwed. Now that we are in the BE, we are boarder line little guys, so this whole thing just makes me nervous.

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Re: CBS Sports.com - BCS How to divide bigger pie
« Reply #4 on Apr 17, 2012, 9:39pm »

Apr 17, 2012, 2:26pm, Gilbert wrote:

I have a proposal to solve this BCS playoff mess that makes so much sense it will never come to fruition

The playoff games would be played one week after the end of the bowl season at predetermined locations so tickets and hotel rooms can be presold.

If all bowl games are required to be played no later than January 1st then the football season would only be extended one week.

The bowl games become more interesting because the teams are playing for a shot at the playoffs.

Just an idea but way better then what we have now.

Not a terrible notion, but read anything about the Rose Bowl and the Big 10 and their view of any playoff system and you will see why there is no chance at all of implementing anything that makes sense.

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Re: CBS Sports.com - BCS How to divide bigger pie
« Reply #5 on Apr 17, 2012, 10:42pm »

Apr 17, 2012, 2:26pm, Gilbert wrote:

I have a proposal to solve this BCS playoff mess that makes so much sense it will never come to fruition.

Continue to keep the bowl system with all its traditional conference affiliations and after the end of the bowl season have a 4 team playoff. A NCAA committee will pick the four teams to participate in the playoff (just like we have now for the basketball tournament only its 4 teams not 68 ).

The playoff games would be played one week after the end of the bowl season at predetermined locations so tickets and hotel rooms can be presold.

If all bowl games are required to be played no later than January 1st then the football season would only be extended one week.

The bowl games become more interesting because the teams are playing for a shot at the playoffs.

Just an idea but way better then what we have now.

A good idea. Maybe that's why I suggested it years ago!

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Re: CBS Sports.com - BCS How to divide bigger pie
« Reply #6 on Apr 18, 2012, 12:17pm »

Apr 17, 2012, 9:39pm, elclip wrote:

Apr 17, 2012, 2:26pm, Gilbert wrote:

I have a proposal to solve this BCS playoff mess that makes so much sense it will never come to fruition

The playoff games would be played one week after the end of the bowl season at predetermined locations so tickets and hotel rooms can be presold.

If all bowl games are required to be played no later than January 1st then the football season would only be extended one week.

The bowl games become more interesting because the teams are playing for a shot at the playoffs.

Just an idea but way better then what we have now.

Not a terrible notion, but read anything about the Rose Bowl and the Big 10 and their view of any playoff system and you will see why there is no chance at all of implementing anything that makes sense.

Take the Rose, the Sugar, the new Cotton Bowl in Jerry's house, the Fiesta, the Orange and whatever the other two most major warm weather bowls are (maybe one would be the Holiday Bowl?) and have an 8-team playoff, with each hosting the NC game every seventh year. The rest of the bowls could remain as they are now and essentially serve as a consolation prize as the NIT does in hoops. Also, there's no reason the Rose Bowl couldn't still host the best teams from the Pac and B1G which aren't among the eight schools in the playoff.

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Re: CBS Sports.com - BCS How to divide bigger pie
« Reply #7 on Apr 18, 2012, 2:39pm »

Or what about:

8 team playoff, with each of the 6 power conferences getting an auto-bid, then two more at-large selections so the Boises, TCUs and Houstons can get an invite as well.

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« Reply #8 on Apr 18, 2012, 2:55pm »

Apr 18, 2012, 2:39pm, mactec wrote:

Or what about:

8 team playoff, with each of the 6 power conferences getting an auto-bid, then two more at-large selections so the Boises, TCUs and Houstons can get an invite as well.

No auto bids. We don’t want an 8-4 team in the playoffs just because they won a lousy conference.

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« Reply #9 on Apr 18, 2012, 3:03pm »

The only "reasonable" solution is to use the same thing that the NCAA does for the rest of football. At least a 16 team playoff.

There are no valid arguments against it. It's done at every level except "FBS".

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Re: CBS Sports.com - BCS How to divide bigger pie
« Reply #10 on Apr 18, 2012, 3:18pm »

Apr 18, 2012, 2:39pm, mactec wrote:

Or what about:

8 team playoff, with each of the 6 power conferences getting an auto-bid, then two more at-large selections so the Boises, TCUs and Houstons can get an invite as well.

Unfortunately, there are only 5 so-called power conferences now. We need a playoff so we can have a shot.

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Re: CBS Sports.com - BCS How to divide bigger pie
« Reply #11 on Apr 18, 2012, 4:35pm »

Its not about a playoff or traditional bowls - its about how the $$ are distributed. If a conference's team is not in the top X will they get anything? This is all about how the top 4 (maybe 5) conferences can take a greater share of a bigger pie.

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« Reply #12 on Apr 18, 2012, 6:37pm »

Baby steps

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Re: CBS Sports.com - BCS How to divide bigger pie
« Reply #13 on Apr 18, 2012, 7:36pm »

Apr 18, 2012, 7:35pm, John, Your Pal® wrote:

I've never understood how a playoff is a better determinant of a NC than a poll or even a computer is.

Any given ~~Sunday~~ Saturday, blah blah...

The "best" team over a period of months cannot be decided in sixty minutes.

You're being stupid on purpose right now.

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« Reply #14 on Apr 18, 2012, 7:39pm »

Apr 18, 2012, 7:37pm, John, Your Pal® wrote:

I've never understood how a playoff is a better determinant of a NC than a poll or even a computer is.

Any given ~~Sunday~~ Saturday, blah blah...

The "best" team over a period of months cannot be decided in sixty minutes.

Apr 18, 2012, 3:18pm, pokesmot wrote:

Unfortunately, there are only 5 so-called power conferences now. We need a playoff so we can have a shot.

Do you think BYU is alone in that regard?
And then there's that...

You have a point about the playoff as it affects schools like SDSU, but I can tell you that BYU wouldn't have sniffed their "national championship" in 1984 had there been a playoff that year.

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